Friday, 05.09.2008 - Welcome to web.com.na! Online: 13 Members, 17 Guests You are not logged in! Home | Forums   Forum Your last visit was: Friday, 05.09.2008, 17:39 [ Search Forum ] Forum Home : Namibia : Events Displaying all 13 posts: Post Views: 795 UNAM vs Polytechnic of Namibia SOPI Number Posts: 26 Last Post: 26.06.2008, 09:41 [ View User's Posts ] Wednesday, 19. March 2008 at 13:01 Guyz here is the debate: Which of the two top namibian institutions of higher learning is making it in the undustry? US as young genius, intellectuals and watever we call ourselves, wat can we do to improve the situation now and in future? Wat do you think about these institutions being politically driven? I mean that, when the idea of renaming Polytech as Namibia's university of science and technology and the upgrade of the poly was brought forward, alot had to oppose. currently the idea is dead Guys let discuss, i will come back and do the marking........... enjoy Re: UNAM vs Polytechnic of Namibia Dai Number Posts: 516 Last Post: 05.09.2008, 11:21 [ View User's Posts ] Wednesday, 19. March 2008 at 14:00 I think Poly is the one making in the industry. The reason being that their end products (qualified students) are highly productive compared to Unam. Concerning the issue of renaming Poly was not really political driven but came up as a reason of developments that are occuring. Under corrections, Poly wanted to offer Masters of Technology (Mtech) and i thing they didnt meet the reguirements. The idea of changing the name came as a result of that and i know it will take long to be approved and that is when the politics came in. I think as a young person, we just need to fight in a sense that the two institution cannot be political driven to a certain extend that nationals cannot get involved in the process. This is affecting the educational development of the country as politicians are sometimes slow to bring up changes rather than fighting for their own interests. Re: UNAM vs Polytechnic of Namibia handy Number Posts: 18 Last Post: 29.05.2008, 15:06 [ View User's Posts ] Wednesday, 19. March 2008 at 14:28 i have to disagree with your first point Dai (that poly students are highly productive compared to Unam). its a very subjective observation and impairing on the intergrity of some of us who are UNAM graduates. but let me emphasise the fact that i acknowledge your opinion. lets put it into perspective. the critical areas in namibia (as we heard debates about the budget) which are health and education. as far as i know only UNAM produces Nurses in Namibia (in conjuction with other hospitals such as onandjokwe). given the nature of the work they do and the low salary they receive, i salute them for what they are doing as far as higher education teachers (grade 10 upwards) are concerned again only unam produces this graduates. again i recommend them for doing very well in this lowly lated proffession and given the shortage of adequate teaching materials, they are really doing their best. lets look at the Law faculty again, only UNAM offers this course in the country. despite the fact that there is a serious shortage of prosecutors and magistrates in this country, those who are there are doing exceptionally good to keep the wheel of justice in this country rolling. having said that, i think (my opinion) that; put in context, unam have quality then poly.. again i want to emphasise that i m not saying poly don't have quality but comparing the two, i will go for UNAM. unfortunately there is no survey to prove any of our ideas, and as it is, there is no right or wrong answer. whatever is whichever, or whatsoever we do, lets try (were we can) to up the quality of our two great institutions. as far as politics is concerned, unfortunately those institutions are owned by government and they both receive subsidies from government, thus politics will always be part of it unless if they become completely independent like IUM IOL etc... [Post edited by: handy on 19/3/08 3:12 PM] Re: UNAM vs Polytechnic of Namibia Elaeti.nam Number Posts: 179 Last Post: 05.09.2008, 13:38 [ View User's Posts ] Wednesday, 19. March 2008 at 16:15 According to the latest WEBOMETRICKS ranking of Africa's top Universities, UNAM is no 23 followed by POLYTEC at 24, not so bad for our young institutions. University of Botswana is at 40. UCT which is 178 years old this year heads the list. CPUT (former Cape Tech) is at 45 Check below for the complete list of Africa's top Universities. I personally think it's not real easy to compare UNAM with Polytech, because of a different nature of graduates they produce. I think Polytech has been expanding rapidly for the past few years and it seems they are very good at Public Relations and Image promotion. The fact that Polytec graduates think they are better than UNAM products is not a surprise to me; I have met many Engineering Technicians and Artisans who think they are better than Engineers, this ofcoarse is wrong but it is a worldwide phenomena. So Diploma/Certificate holders will sometimes think they are better than Degree holders. There is however a popular belief among Polytech graduates that Namibian firms prefer Polytech to UNAM products, especially in the financial and IT sector. If this is true, Polytech has to be commended. An Objective survey need to be done, sector by sector to see which institution real produces human resources that are sought after in the industry. This will be good for both institutions, it will help them raise their standard of teaching and reseach. However as long as Polytech remains a Technicon while UNAM is a University it will be difficult to compare. 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SOUISSI ________________________________________ 82 AL AZHAR AL-SHARIF ISLAMIC RESEARCH ACADEMY ________________________________________ 83 PAN-AFRICAN UNIVERSITY ________________________________________ 84 MONASH UNIVERSITY SOUTH AFRICA ________________________________________ 85 INSTITUT DE FORMATION EN TECHNOLOGIE ALIMENTAIRE ________________________________________ 86 UNIVERSITE HASSAN II AIN-CHOCK ________________________________________ 87 AMERICAN UNIVERSITY OF KINSHASA ________________________________________ 88 VAAL UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY ________________________________________ 89 UNIVERSITE CHOUAIB DOUKKALI ________________________________________ 90 UNIVERSITE DE NOUAKCHOTT ________________________________________ 91 CENTRAL UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY ________________________________________ 92 UNIVERSITY OF TANTA ________________________________________ 93 UNIVERSITE DJILLALI LIABES ________________________________________ 94 COLLEGE OF MEDICINE UNIVERSITY OF MALAWI 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March 2008 at 16:48 Any way as the poster indicated s\he stated that let us debate, and debating is always opposing one another's idear. Let me also disagree with u Handy that Unam is a bit low compare to Polytech and I like to support arguments with facts in really life we all know that Poly has been awarded /mentioned as the best institution in the country by proffessionals in the industry. read the archives for more. On a specific courses both instituitions have certain courses that are not offered by other and if I am not mistaken Poly is already offering Mtech courses, Bsc in medical started 2008 already and Bsc in engineering is starting 2009 in addition to Btech, in electronic, electrical mechanical and civil engineering, many of our engineering technicians in the telecommunication industries are poly products, go to Telecom and MTC for more. In compination with other graduates from poly in other fields its finally decided that these ppl are very competent, I have a brother at Unam fourth year geology student but when that brother of mine is handling a mouse you can tell kutya the guy is not computer competent. On politics I think the problem with Unam management is that they are too much into politics, and we know how politicians hate each other, appointing a candidate on a political plate is dangerouse in education. I don't want politicians to be in our institutions of high learning of course the GRN is for politician and it give some contributions but they should not interefere with education, just as in the judicial system of the GRN. Re: UNAM vs Polytechnic of Namibia Peke Number Posts: 30 Last Post: 22.07.2008, 14:56 [ View User's Posts ] Wednesday, 19. March 2008 at 16:53 tell me how many graduates from poly are doing the work they studied for besides being a secretary or working at Ramatex. I think the institution does not make itself a better educational place but its the students that makes it the right institute Re: UNAM vs Polytechnic of Namibia EPANGELO Number Posts: 283 Last Post: 04.09.2008, 17:55 [ View User's Posts ] Wednesday, 19. March 2008 at 16:59 Thank u Elaiti to ur research there Re: UNAM vs Polytechnic of Namibia Dai Number Posts: 516 Last Post: 05.09.2008, 11:21 [ View User's Posts ] Thursday, 20. March 2008 at 08:01 I agree with you but how can you compare courses that are not at Poly. I thought the main idea of comparing was to look at similarities and differences of what is being offered at both insititutions. My dear, i salute you and Unam when it comes to education, nursing and law. Offcourse they produce graduates with efficient knowledge and skills. The only problem that i can tell is Agriculture, Conservation and Marine. The graduates are not exposed to the world of fields that they are doing and i can practically tell you that these guys are struggling to get work, simply because they know 100% of theory and not practicals. Handy, i can give you several examples where Agriculture and Conservation students from both instititution met and Poly were excellent. Unam where explaining things but dont know anything when it comes to practices. Dear Handy, i met three students from Neudamm who were at that time doing Animal Production or related to as a course of study. This guys dont know how to inject animals, neithers helping when it comes to animal birthings, dehorning, castrating and neither know how to palpate just to determine if the animal has conceived. those are the basics that animal specialists need to have. dont you think so? Go to Plants graduates, they wont tell you the scientific names of the plants, what the hell is that? The person has finished and he/she is considered a plant expert, why? if you dont know your field. Handy, go with Law, nursing and education but i can go with Agriculture and other natural resources courses, that i have a proof of . Gud luck bra. Re: UNAM vs Polytechnic of Namibia Elaeti.nam Number Posts: 179 Last Post: 05.09.2008, 13:38 [ View User's Posts ] Thursday, 20. March 2008 at 12:10 It's good that Graduates from both Institutions think they are better than the others. That shows that students have confidence in UNAM and Polytech. What you must do is to be more serious with your work so that you can be a good ambassador of your institution, thus rising the rating based on the Alumni's work perfomance. Dai has given some insight into the agricultural coarses that both institutions offer. My understanding is that these coarses are different in the sense that one is a Bachelor of Technology or Diploma while the other is a Bachelor of Science. B.Tech in general is more practical oriented, while B.Sc is more theoretical. Both complements each other. A B.Sc graduates is taught the fundamendals of the field such that She will be able to come up with new inventions and designs, While the B.Tech student is more practical so that He will be able to implement the Designs of the B.sc graduate. All the technical, biological or medical products we have today are the results of the thoughts of Science people. Technologists are then taught to build them as per specifications, this is why many times B.Tech graduates are very specific in their coarses. e.g For a B.Tech it is either Power, electronics or communication. While for a B.sc, the graduate is able to understand everything from Power to Electronics. That's How I understant it. Dai's argument on Unam graduates that: "This guys dont know how to inject animals, neithers helping when it comes to animal birthings, dehorning, castrating..." gives a good insight, those are practical tasks. The Unam graduates are more into coming up with suitable medications, determining when to dehorn and castrate. As I said in my previous post I have met Technicians and Artisans who think they are better than Engineers and this is a worldwide phenomena, talk to any Engineer who has been in the field and He will tell you his experience with Technician. Just Imagine a Valombola Vocational Electrician thinking He is better that an Engineer from Africa's Top University, simply because he is good at wiring a house, while forgeting that the design, rating of cables, instrumentation and the overall electrical system is brought up by the Engineer. These perception would be stronger in Namibia, because of the low level of industrialisation, which denies B.Sc graduates to apply their knowledge, thus ending up doing more technical work which they are not fully trained at, but it takes a week for any Engineer to understand and do what a Technician have learnt in 3 to 4 years, because of the broader understading of the Field. Regarding the Computer Literacy of Unam graduates as compared to Polytech ones as per Epangelo's observation, I think that was an Isolated case. In addition to the fact that Unam students are required to do most of their work with computers thus advancing their computer knowledge, Unam also offer a Compursory Computer Literacy coarse to all it's undergraduate students. Let's not forget that the SMS system used to access Grade 10 and 12 was an idea of 2 young Namibian computer science graduates from Unam. Overall this kinds of debate are healthy, for example Unam used to be criticized for having a dull website as compared to Poly's. This was true. But now they have changed and their site is very informative as compared to Poly's gloss and graphical enhanced, an act of Image Promotion I guess. I tried to find out more about the Curriculum of agricultural courses for Unam and Poly, the sites below provide some insight. http://www.unam.na/faculties/Agriculture2008.doc http://www.polytechnic.edu.na/academics/schools/nat_res_tourism/agri/agri.htm Enjoy your Independence and Easter long weekend.... Re: UNAM vs Polytechnic of Namibia SOPI Number Posts: 26 Last Post: 26.06.2008, 09:41 [ View User's Posts ] Thursday, 20. March 2008 at 13:29 Replying to you post Elait, i do agree with you in differentiating betweeen BTech and Bsc. Still with BTech we are taught how to invent new things but with 30 percent theory and 70 percent on Practical. So the BTech people can still come up with designs and plans and also implement them, while the Bsc graduate will only come up with more designs but wait for a Tech to come implement. So thats how i see these two. I'm one of the Polyetchnic Graduate in one of their technical courses and i feel proud today for being a graduate of PON. I have friends at Unam, whom we graduated from the high school,in the same year, but i'm telling you now that, thing are not good at all. enriching students with knowledge without skills, i personall dont think its what namibia wants at the moment. We need people with knowledge and capabilities to perform whats is expected of you in this undustry. A Technologists and Engineers work together and i dont agree with you when you say, an Engineer can learn wat a technologists in a week. Do you have facts? It takes pure undustrialized know how to pick it up. If he can do that in a week, then why just not doing everything by themselves without calling up the Tech? In my Industry where i a m, a guy from Vocational, qualify to be an electrician(elec), from Technikon(PON), are electrical engineers, Mechnical eng, Technicians, and from varsity are same to those ones from Technikon. Tel what, There was this guy, he has Bsc in Math and Chemistry from Swaziland University and then a Bsc in Geomatics(Surveying) and the a Msc in Civil engineering from UCT(both Geomatics and Msc). This guy is good at politiking in the office and coming to do the work, he does shit work. He was a coleague(non namibian). Thats makes someone incompetent of such calibar compared to a Technicon Graduate. Looking at things in nam, we need to do research, planining, come up designs and know how to implement them our selves instead of getting specialist from other countries i will be back Re: UNAM vs Polytechnic of Namibia handy Number Posts: 18 Last Post: 29.05.2008, 15:06 [ View User's Posts ] Thursday, 20. March 2008 at 13:51 Those were good observations by you Dai and its a good thing that you shared them with us, and as a result we got a very good or rather excellent explanation from Elaiti. The distinctions that you have made Elaiti are so good that i wish they can be published in our local media in order to educate our employers and to give guidance to the learners who intends to further their studies so that they can understand why they should take up a certain course. i do not know what profession you belong to Elaiti, but i really suggest that you perhaps take up a career in areas of research or maybe consider writing some educational books, because what you know will really benefit our developing nation. Again i salute you, and were possible, i can support you in coming up with something of the sort. Epangelo, i acknowledge you contribution, and i hope you will critically look at what Elaiti has alluted to. Having said that, i think the debate of comparing UNAM and Polytech will not really give us a definite answer, but so far those who have participated (with a few exceptions) have given objective views. May Namibian higher institutions prosper. Blessed Easter and Independence day to you all. Re: UNAM vs Polytechnic of Namibia Elaeti.nam Number Posts: 179 Last Post: 05.09.2008, 13:38 [ View User's Posts ] Thursday, 20. March 2008 at 16:23 Handy I'm flattered by your comments. SOPI, it's good that you are proud of your qualification from PON, I'm proud of you too, PON is realy doing it's best to carry out it's mandate of educating Namibians, so too is UNAM. Your perception about Technicians, Engineers, B.Tech, B sc is not a surprise to me. It is expected. I have read a Journal from the then Telegraphy Society written somewhere in the late 1800, When the Telecommucation industry was still developing. In that Journal one of the Engineers who was involved in the inventions that started with Telegraphy that later developed into Telephones, Radio, Satelite communication and Internet as we know it today, raised the concern about how Technicians who they have trained as assistants to operate and maintain their inventions started thinking that they are better than them. There is a differency between B.Tech Engineers and B.sc Engineers even when they register at the Engineering Council of Namibia, a B.Tech graduate can only register as Incorporated Engineer while the B.sc one is registered as a Proffesional Engineer. In addition to this the Academic Requirement to enroll for the coarses are different as well, the ones for B.sc being high. Whoever drew up this requirement knew what He was doing. I have said the Engineer will learn in a week what a Technician (note Technician not Technologist) have learnt in 3 to 4 years. I have a practical proof for this. An electrician learns/memorise points where to connect wires so that the motor turns in a certain direction. An Engineer may not know right away the physical configuration of that particular motor. But He has a fundamental knowledge of why the motor turns in that direction. So He has the ability to figure out by HIMSELF in a hour where to connect so that a motor turns in a wanted direction. In addition to that He can be able to reconfigure that motor so that it rotates at different speeds, Torque, Power etc. The point I'm trying to stress here is that, the motor did not fall from heaven and it was not brought by the Technician either. It was designed by another engineer based on Theories such a Faraday's, Maxwell's, Electromagnetism etc, That a Technician does not understand. It's like a car, the Mechanical Engineer or Mechanical Technician for that matter knows the Inside of the car better than a Driver, but Michael Schummacher will never claim to have a better understanding of the Car's engine than Mechanical Engineers simply because He can operate (drive) much faster than Engineers. The Engineers need Technicians to operate and maintain their designs, while they are busy with other designs. It will be a waste of Time and Human Knowledge for a Mechanical Engineer to design the Engine of a Golf 5 and continue to be the one building and maintaining all models, when in fact all He has to do is build the first Model and give it to Technologists and Technicians to replicate, While He is busy with designing the next Model Golf 6. I hope these points clarifies the misunderstandings that exists. They may seem out of topic about Unam and Poly comparison, but they SUM up the general wrong perception that Technicon/Vocational graduates have toward their University counterparts. As to which Institution is carrying out it's intended mandate more effectively than the other, I think both are doing well, Testimony to this is their high ranking in Africa despite their age. Polytech has been expanding rapidly lately, The management seems to be good and they are definitely good at image promotion. The reports that many Poly graduates ends up in the street is rather unfortunate. The question is; is this because they don't meet the market standards? or is it because there are no opportunities in the industry? The latter would be contrary to popular belief that Namibia has a shortage of skills and the army of unskilled people, which sometimes distracts both Local and Foreign investors. May our Tertial Institutions grow into World Class Technicons and Universities... Re: UNAM vs Polytechnic of Namibia SOPI Number Posts: 26 Last Post: 26.06.2008, 09:41 [ View User's Posts ] Thursday, 20. March 2008 at 18:54 Elaiti, i'm so surprised on how good you make your facts yeah i understand you very well. But look at the abstract i got for you. This can be reality or not, we all fight for our two institutions. And i promise you these twio institution will grow to the world class, since we are almost there now. Elaiti, help the nation to educate them on your good carreer choices, which has become a problem in our young graduate 12 graduates But here are the abstract, they are well proved by the industry themselves and even institutions that are offering these courses. This paper appears in: AFRICON, 1999 IEEE Publication Date: 1999 Volume: 2, On page(s): 1221-1224 vol.2 Meeting Date: 09/28/1999 - 10/01/1999 Location: Cape Town, South Africa ISBN: 0-7803-5546-6 References Cited: 8 INSPEC Accession Number: 6514031 Digital Object Identifier: 10.1109/AFRCON.1999.821955 Posted online: 2002-08-06 22:52:26. Summary:Preparations for the B. Tech degree started in 1988 and the first degree in Engineering was awarded in 1995. The aim was to bridge the gap between the Technikon diploma and the University degree. The B.Tech contains an industry-focussed research component, clearly making it an upgrade on the National Higher Diploma (T4). This research obtained feedback from the Electrical, Mechanical and Civil Engineering industries. Findings are based on the response to more than 800 questionnaires sent out to people with substantial involvement in the engineering field. Based on the feedback obtained, the following are some of the conclusions made: (i) the majority of employers in industry have only an adequate (or less) knowledge of the B.Tech degree; (ii) the future demand for employment will be greatest for the National Diploma, followed by B.Tech graduates, followed in turn by B.Sc graduates; and (iii) the perception of the B.Tech is in line with a degree, rather than a diploma What is the difference between B.Sc. Biotechnology and B.Tech Biotechnology? There is certainly a difference between B.Sc Biotechnology and B.Tech Biotechnology. 1. B.Sc is there year course and B.Tech is a four-year course. B.Sc falls in the category of basic sciences while B.Tech falls in the category of technical/technological/applied sciences. 2. The course content of B.Sc biotechnology is more over inclined towards theoretical sciences. B.Tech course will take only few courses in theoretical sciences, and most of the contents are from technological background. 3. After competing B.Sc you can register for M.Sc, B.Tech will offer you the same choice but on an advantageous front you may directly apply to M.Tech course. This will save your one-year of study. After doing B.Sc you will have to register for a masters course to get admitted to M.Tech. 4. After doing B.Sc employment is not that encouraging but B.Tech will offer you a good salary especially in industry. M.Sc is must to enter in industry for a good position. 5. In Govt sector to enter in research field you will have to complete Masters degree for a research position. M.Sc will do that. After doing B.tech, M.Tech will be compulsory. 6. If you are planning for education in USA 10+2+4 is the requirement. B Tech course satisfies this. After completing B.Sc you will have to opt for M.Sc for education abroad. 7. The major difference is all about your own way of looking towards science. A basic science background will nourish you as a scientist while a technological background will nourish as engineer. One thing is sure technical degree always yields a better salary. PHD is the best thing to look out for after PG. 8. It’s all about what you are looking for. 9. Most important there is a huge difference of getting degree from a private and govt institute. The most imp thing is to check the recognition of the college of institute by UGC and AICTE. Doing a degree form a non-recognized college may land you in trouble in near future. texttexttext Post Views: 795 Displaying all 13 posts: © 2008 web.com.na About | Press | Contact & Support | Terms & Conditions| Privacy | Imprint Designed for Namibia