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why 300 doctors,they're too many
mile

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Monday, 04. August 2008 at 14:07
I read in the namibian for today-Monday, August 4, 2008,their saying "THE North Korean government is in talks with Namibia's Health Ministry about sending 300 Korean doctors to Namibia".
I know that its just a suggestion,an action from the namibia goverment is not yet taken,but I just want to let them know that this number's too big,as if there's is an epidermic outbreak in Namibia.There are alot of natives who are jobless,the goverment is sending a few number of students overseas,and the goverment is not even consindering its own students who are overseas now.They're the last one to be consindered.I heard that the students in Russsia under the goverment scholarship are suffering too much.
This are the things that the goverment need to workon if it needs foreign skills and qualifications.

If the goverment is to take this people,how is it going to settle this people.if the goverment is still struggling to maintain its own students.

Don't just exaggerate when you hear about foreigners,they bring the good and the bad,we already know that they want something in return-that uranium.
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Tiara

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Tuesday, 05. August 2008 at 01:05
If those 300 Korean doctors are really to be deployed to Namibia,that will be a huge relief to the Namibian health sector and and to the Namibian people at large.

There is a shortage of doctors in Namibia. Three years ago there were only about 650 doctors in Namibia but the amount increased recently to about 1500.Many of them work in private practice and the shortages are especially accute in rural areas.Considering the Namibian 2 million population-that's about 1 doctor per 300 patients a day!goodness me that's terrible!too make it worse,you find sick people traveling far away just to come see a doctor but then that very same sick person is sent back home without seeing a doctor simply because there are too many patients and indeed some patients even die as a result of no medical attention on time as needed.

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Sacramento

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Tuesday, 05. August 2008 at 03:14
You need to withdraw your statement my dear or stay away from my village or else they gonna Kill you, too may for what? if I can have a doctor at Ohaingu Clinic, that will be a good thing for my constituency( about up to 4000 patients visit the clinic every month) most of them with serious conditions, they are referred to Engela( about 10 KM) without an Ambulance, some of them die waiting for a hike.

It is a fact that the government is sending few people to study in this field, but gradually we will have our own doctors, however, in mean time, our situation indicates that we are desperately in need of about 500 or more(tiara give me the figures girl). I have 4 private doctors but my people shares one doctor at an alarming ratio.

We need to think inconsideration of the needy and not necessarily for our selves, Yes there will be something to be given in return but there is no free lunch in this world my dearest Mile, I am sure the GRN is not stupid to give away the country in return.
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Kachokwe

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Tuesday, 05. August 2008 at 10:05
I think Doctors are needed in Namibia considering that most of the Clinics in Rural areas are being taken care of by two or one Enrolled nurses who some times lack experience and this cause some patient to die before they being attended to a professional Doctor. 300, then may be about 23 doctors per region and most key hospitals in all 13 regions should be allocated a doctor/s full time so at least to minimize some an effect of accident that read to death because of long waiting or traveling to see the Doctor.
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Hate

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Tuesday, 05. August 2008 at 11:11
Our loved 1 are dying at villages due to lack of doctors and we will be happy if we are 2 receive doctors 2 help.
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chuma

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Tuesday, 05. August 2008 at 11:47
The GRN must stop investing in foreigners but rather do that in their own people. why do they send people to study in Russia while most of the operations & surgeries are done in SA? even the recently opened Cardiac unit at Windhoek Central Hospital is being run by South African Specialists. why cant they send them for training at South African Universities? or are those DRs not trained in SA? I'm not against the coming of the 300 Korean DRs but until when are we going to do this?
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mile

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Tuesday, 05. August 2008 at 22:18
From all these comments i have received i have seen that the Namibian youth is lacking poolitics,big time!

The reason why doctors are choosing to work in private sectors is because the goverment's paying peannuts.In the newspaper the foreigners are complaining that their salary's not eough,I hope the goverment will consinder its own people first.

Hey sacramento!!Do you think that these doctors are going to work in the villages?Are they coming from villages in Korea?Some villages dont even have electricity,that means the goverment needs to build infractructure and provide transport.Imagine how much will this cost already?Some of the people in the villages cant even afford to pay for medical fee,that's one of the reason their dying.You said that "there is no free lunch in this world",SO WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE YOUR OWN LUNCH? WHEN?

Even if they send 300 doctors to Nmibia,the people will still suffer.Poverty is the result of health problems.
When will our government stop accepting DONATIONs?,who knows maybe the governmnt's the one that go look for donations.What happens to the billions of dollars that were in the government's budget for this year.

By the time we're going to realize that we had resouces to sustain each other,we have lost it already.kiss it goodbye.









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Sacramento

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Wednesday, 06. August 2008 at 02:05
If you provide me with the terms of references for this Doctors or the conditions of the agrement, you might convince me, as far as I am concern, these people usualy come work where our own people dont want to work.

I thing you are the one who lack politics, this is not the first time we got into this kind of biratrals, we did it with Cuba, I didnt cee Cuba taking over Namibia, Rasions and Kenyans, come on bra, open your eyes, this is for our benefit, When I say free lunch I mean for example, they give us the Doctors in return we award a state house or Nuclea plantation tender to Korea, that is how it works unfortunatly.

It is not true to say GRN is not investing in its people, yes we sent people to Ruasia but you fail to recognise the fact that we sent a whole lot to SA as well.
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Hate

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Wednesday, 06. August 2008 at 12:07
I have to accept that i might not know politics hence i am not that into politics but what is paiful 2 me is that there are no enough doctors in our country and i support the GRN 2 accept those doctors and hope 1 day we will have enough doctors of our own. it hurts alot seeing ppl dying especially ppl close to us because of lack of doctors. the well being of ppl comes first 2 me and i am sure this doctors will accept going to wherever they are send including vilages.
Re: why 300 doctors,they're too many
mile

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Wednesday, 06. August 2008 at 12:10
You must be one of them homeboys sacramento,that's why you will neva understand.if you go out of the country is when you see things in another perspective.
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Sacramento

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Wednesday, 06. August 2008 at 12:46
Mile

One of what, some of you people who find yourself( by the grace of God) abroad write as if you know exactly who you are interacting with in this forum, Mile you write "if you go out of the country is when you see things in another perspective''. do you have any idea where I am writing from? come on mate, you need to understand what a biratral agrement is befor you can be so judgemental.

We need those doctors and we need them now, indicate your vilage and I can see what I can do to make sure you do not benfit from this service.

It is a pity you think that way.
Re: why 300 doctors,they're too many
mile

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Wednesday, 06. August 2008 at 13:03
so where can we find you by your own grace anyway?MR GOVERNMENT.
You only know how to come up with ideas on how to provide to foreigners,while your own people are hustling.

We need those doctors and we need them now, indicate your vilage and I can see what I can do to make sure you do not benfit from this service.-it seems like you run the authority now.
Keep running,soon you might realize that you passed the finish line.
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Sacramento

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Thursday, 07. August 2008 at 11:06
blablaa, yes miles, we dont need them, they will take over our country, we have our own people, our people are not sick, we can manage.... Good thinking for you bra.
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Makoko

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Monday, 25. August 2008 at 13:49
bra we need them in the mean time. but the ? remains when are we going to stop relying on foreign doctors. i'l be glad if they are deployed to rural areas were the services are much needed, coz our doctors are so greedy that they quickly want to fill their pockets as much as they can and not help their own people.
Re: why 300 doctors,they're too many
mile

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Tuesday, 26. August 2008 at 00:38
Don't just thank me yet bra Sacramento,there're still those who don't understand just like you were at first.I'm proud that you understood now.
EACH ONE TEACH ONE!
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Sacramento

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Tuesday, 26. August 2008 at 02:20
Mile

You dont get it do you bra, I basicaly gave up( astonished by the way you reason) , Ive realised that you are far from what I stand for , thus decided not to continue the debate, it is your post and I can only tell you my opinion and my opinion which is based on the need on the ground remains that we need them doctors, I dont care whether they are from Ching DOng or Manawatu, if we could put up with them Cuban for the past years, than surely the Korean will be a bonus.

That is the Lesson bra.
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Tuesday, 26. August 2008 at 18:55
If these doctors are sent to make some experiments using Africans??? who knows they are qualified??? what about our bunches of students studying medicine, where are they going to work when they graduates??? namibian youths really don't understand Europeans's indirect invasion and colonialisation of Africa, even that bastard straight spitting that they'll get a neuclear plant as reward, IN TERM OF HEALTH WE AINT HAVE TO TRUST FOREIGNERS, DON'T PUT YO HEALTH INTO SOMEBODY'S HANDS, hundreds of kids from Liberia were infected with Aids by White Europeans
all the PILLS and Tablets that's not trusted yet in Korea will be tested on you guys, be smart enough to realize that
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Tiara

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Tuesday, 26. August 2008 at 22:34
My dear people, what's all the fuss about the North Korean doctors?? what is really the problem? I mean if those 300 doctors are really to go to Namibia,we just have to be thankful and shut our mouths......those doctors are going to Namibia because there is a shortage of doctors there and they will be saving the lives of our own people......they are qualified medical doctors.....I don't think the Namibian government is stupid enough to let unqualified doctors.....(it will make no sense) work in it's health sector! if they are really to be deployed to Namibia,surely they won't be working in private practices but in state hospitals be it in Windhoek or in rural areas where there is a shortage of them.....

Those foreign doctors will go to work in Nambia on a contract,so they won't be for ever working there. Once their contracts expire then they will return back to their country.....

I know that some of you are a bit sceptical (so am I )about North Korea (Nuclear weapons programs) obviously they want uranium in return......but as far as I am concerned North Korea blew up the most prominent symbol of it's plutonium production this year....so no need to worry.....
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Sacramento

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Wednesday, 27. August 2008 at 08:11
I dont thing they will by ant chance take the Namibian graduates jobs, we have a big medical market and you all will be accommodated, the only difference is that a Namibian who spend 5 year at some medical school will definitely have a problem to be deployed at Odayafingwa clinic in Ohangwena region, Okongo constituency.

As of the level of qualification and competency, well we do have Cubans and some of our own are studding the same field in Russia( and according to you the system is not credible), so what the fuss all about, like I said if it means in return we award a tender for a nuclear power generation in Namibia to Korea, who cares, at least it will be money put to good use as finally we might just have electricity at Onufuyatumba Village,( and yes that one is also in Ohangwena Region)
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Wednesday, 27. August 2008 at 09:37
Hahaaaa....Tandi ti menhu ove Sacramento, hano naave owa dile komikunda odho to tongo opo? Oohoty mani...kuuKwanyama oku na ovanhu hava luku omadina oko wani a kindja nayi....Ame mwene omikunda odo ohandi du udu ngo ngokatana komoilya! Owa dimbwa ko omukunda umwe mani...vati "Okaxu?#?wena"
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Sacramento

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Wednesday, 27. August 2008 at 10:37
Haaha.. inantiudimbwa, but I was trying not to catch atention from some segment of the forum, you dont want Tiara on your cas now. but a doctor there will do as well, and that what I want to tell MyS and Mile them.
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Tiara

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Wednesday, 27. August 2008 at 10:40
Neee mani.....Sacramento!! LOL..... is there really a village with such name? if so, one day you have to take me to that village to see it for myself.....
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Wednesday, 27. August 2008 at 11:12
Oohoty ....Tiara Nankelo.....u wanna go to vist those village? Yeah...oshili...i heard it b4

But Tiara ko side hwiya natango kaku na uuyelele mbela kaya....is there any Kwankuli got into yr lap-top?
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Elaeti.nam

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Wednesday, 27. August 2008 at 11:14
Hilarious names out there!!!

Imagine If a guy from that village names his IVECO bus "Onufuyatumba Liner".

On a serious note now. Foreign doctors are definitely needed on the short term basis, while ours are being trained. Speaking under correction, seven Namibian doctors are graduating every year on average. Intervention measures has been put in place by the government to address the shortage of Doctors and Engineers in the country. They started with the Pre-Med and Pre-Engineering programme at Unam, where candidates finishes their studies in South Africa.

Plans are to build a medical school at Central Hospital.
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Sacramento

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Wednesday, 27. August 2008 at 11:18
Oshili Tiara shiveli they are there and are real, nomOkaxundw...na ondaendamo...lol
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