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Re: swapo is scared of RDP
KING Slem

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Tuesday, 13. May 2008 at 20:24
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Re: swapo is scared of RDP
tell it like that

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Tuesday, 13. May 2008 at 20:37
HELLO AGAIN

so when i mistake is done it is easy to point a fingure at one but administration wise.
you can,t let a person run your administration for so long without you saying anything unless he deceide to go out is when you start your mad smearing , realy for people like me won,t buy it.

i wil also point a finger to the overal person maybe something is wrong with him. or how?


lets debate issues as stated and see where mistakes are ?

today Namibia is free because of all of those who died fighting and to those who worked hard like HH so remember that some of you are enjoying independence because of the likes of HH and others it is very embaracing today to hear some of our youth in swapo are insulting HH .
if i where you i will appreciate him and wish him luck weather his party is going to fail or not he did a lot in swapo which some of you will never do at any point in swapo. apart fropm wearing only swapo coluors and trying to pleaze your masters for position thts it.

i argue all namibians be it from Swapo or RDP to start reading HISTORY and and what others right because them are the ones who knows what realy happened stop stereo type because it will mislead you from knowing the truth and history can be deluted please wake up we are in the 21st century .


love and Peace
Re: swapo is scared of RDP
Mysterio

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Tuesday, 13. May 2008 at 21:04
Yes, you told it like it is!! --quiet funny--

People, you know what, "It is quiet amazing when the strangers are becoming friends but very hurtful if it comes to friends becoming enemies--!!

I have really read and understood your posts, and understand that you might be one of the RDP top officials --prove me wrong-- I am having something to say but just try toi read it with a good understanding coz it is not well organised but there is a meaningful gist.

Its good now that you are using this platform to raise the hurtful part of Hidipo, that led to him parting ways with his parental political party SWAPO "if I have to put it that way". Why is he just willing to reveal the truth now that he kept in his heart for the past years while he was a SWAPO MP? Is it not because there is a war of stereotyping between the two parties?

Lets focus on the stereotype point!

- In your posts, you have mentioned things like, Hidipo being a man with vision and wanted back by the political party of which he is saying that it has losed its vision and thats what led to him parting ways with it. Who knows that what he is mentioning is true that the SWAPO party has lost its vision? Did it just loose vision in this case now that he is out? Was he the main pillar or the Guy rope of the party? How is the SWAPO party suffering in his absence? I bet thats stereotype 1 from the RDP side.

- Your own posts are stereotypical coz all they are focusing on is to make people loose interest in SWAPO of which Hidipo had served for years. Why are you just more on the bad side of the SWAPO party? Is it now coz you are campaigning in a silent and indirect way? Then give us more on the right side of both parties other than just bringing the positive to your political side RDP

* SWAPO has started to mention the wrong dones by Hidipo and all others leaders after they have moved from from the party, why didn't they mention those things before? --I believe all political parties are just putting words into each others mouths.

* Hidipo has served on many posts but he did not show any improvement on those sides, why is he crying foul now that it is coz he was not under the right government?

* Both parties being calling each other names is of no use what ever, but using the forums as the right place to put your political parties into the map is of a low value and showing how hungry for power you and your party is.

I think we should focus on the positives other than negatives and always use the right channels to make our voices being heard other than just mixing up the things.

* About the DBC, AMCOM stories, just know that it is very rare just to mention or implicate somebody on something that he/she is very far from. Remember also that if that was a hidden corrupt agenda of the SWAPO party government that Hidipo hidden during his reign, there is no way he has forgot them coz it is a trick or practice that he had served for so long, has taken it along to his new party and will put into practice as usual.

Being preaching Vision and Ready for progress as well as to correct where the current government has failed to me is a pure joke of the century. For that I will say the RDP party wish and I mean ---they wish.---

To you and all the RDP followers, SWAPO is a looser and has lost its vision, but to all the SWAPO supporters, the plane is fully laden and being navigated accordingly. It will reach its destination and land actually.

We are all players in the field and it is the final score that will determine the winner!! Those shouts we are sending out are just a wasting of time coz we all dunno whats ahead and if we are more on the speeches for those politicians that served together in and outside the country, we are confusing ourselves coz we dunno whats in each others hearts. Some hatres are long term feuds and note that those people are having top secrets that I and you won't know no matter what.

Hopin next time you will be giving us the positive side of SWAPO and the negatives of RDP if you are really telling it like it is!!

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Re: swapo is scared of RDP
tell it like that

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Tuesday, 13. May 2008 at 23:36
very good my Ex party Brother

thank you for promoting me to my party Top officials which i am not.

Yes you are right , and it is democracy.
one thing for sure is everything i said was on HH press release statement which i did not write.
It was wise for your party to answer his press release cause their silence meant that what evver HH said is true or how?

lost vision yes this is a man who was drafting our constutition which i do not want to argue with you becaue him knows better what the swapo goverment promised and in seventeen years failed to deliver some me and you can see today but to something they have done very well.

as i told you before that i don,t hate swapo neither am i one sided but i talk of things that i can see myself happening and the unjustice done to many in Namibia today.

why is swapo not willing to call a debate on TV so that we can see how they reason.
yes swapo is calling evErybody back except Nyamu do you want proof of that please.
Iit IS A PITY THAT democracy in NAMIBIA IS ONLY FEW THINGS BUT OTHER THINGS NO,
and we still have a mentality of wanting to opress those who speak louder. and we hate them for telling the truth. we only want to be on our comfort zone if you happen to say something than you are one sided. or be positive why do we want other to be positive it should start from ourselves who want others to follow or how?

Lets be honest my Brother


love and Peace


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Re: swapo is scared of RDP
Finzel

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Wednesday, 14. May 2008 at 12:29
Long staffs are BOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIINGGGGGGGGGG
Re: swapo is scared of RDP
Elaiti

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Thursday, 15. May 2008 at 21:03
I can't believe that there are still people out there who believes RDP is a threat to SWAPO.

I must admit that before Eenhana I kinda had a same impression (same for COD before 1999 election). I thought they meant business. I felt that it was rather unfortunate that many people are misled into a crookish project, thus I tried to bring to fore all the corrupt deals, opportunistic behaviours, etc of the main people behind this project (sourced from newspapers).

I was however happy and releaved to hear that, In fact the majority of our people denounced this project, Eenhana was a good sample. (Plus, I think the Swapo merchandise sells more than any other in Namibia today).

Some analysers thinks Eenhana cannot be a good sample because of its rural set up. Some says RDP is for the educated. I beg to differ.

The best sample to finalise this argument is the internet. The Internet is used 100% used by educated people.

Facebook is a world wide networking site which has groups to which people can choose to belong. RDP and SWAPO has groups there too. These groups can be a very good Sample.

On Facebook SWAPO has 261 members while RDP has only 17.

The number of SWAPO members is also increasing rapidly, last time I checked some times around end of March there, SWAPO had around 180 members while RDP had 12. So about 80 more members to SWAPO as compared to RDP's increase of only 5.

These are statistics from the internet users, the educated people, which RDP claims to have support.

So Ladies and Gentlemen RDP is a FAILED project. Gwen Lister engineered their Sms campaign for favour RDP, it Failed. Phil ya Nangolo planted Talking robots on Chat Shows, That just fired up SWAPO.

J Nambinga may try to revive it by Provoking the people and get sympathy from outside, but it won't WORK. (Thanks to the Police)



I had a look at the RDP website. What's that "VOTE" for HH all about?( A vote below HH's picture). Is HH campaigning for the RDP presidency already? Maybe I got it all wrong. Can any RDP supporter clarify please?

Oooh, maybe He is campaigning for the 2009 National elections. But, He is only an interim president, right? Ok lets assume He will win the rdp presidency. So then does it mean He automaticaly qualify to be the Party's candidate? What does the party constitution say? Sorry there is NO party constitution.

Mmmh, thats Democracy and Progress for you. I wonder how they plan to "correct SWAPO's mistakes..." If things are that messy.


Swapo United, Swapo victorious, Now Hardwork..... I am going back to my pick and spade






[Post edited by: Elaiti on 22/5/08 10:29 AM]
Re: swapo is scared of RDP
DIRECTOR

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Thursday, 15. May 2008 at 21:21
I read very well your post,i just came to conclusion that, you are working for goverment, and you are just scared like swpo, stress and running like a headless chicken,who is opportunists? Corruptions is in our gov. Who signed ODC money?
Think like a person and open your eyes, you are blind. Shame on you.
Re: swapo is scared of RDP
Candy

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Thursday, 15. May 2008 at 22:10
what is the fuss about..define democracy...
Re: swapo is scared of RDP
Boerseun

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Thursday, 15. May 2008 at 22:26
Political parties and Politicians are just like salesmen: Whatever brand they are currently pushing, is always the best!

Opposition parties have one thing in common: NONE OF THEM EVER FAILED AT GOVERNMENT. Swapo on the other hand, has got 18 years of failure behind them. That we know.

What we dont know, is if the RDP, or COD, or RP or any of the oposition parties will fare any better at government than swapo. My common sense tells me "YES" simply because I observe a far higher level of integrity and professionalism (and dare I say education?) among opposition politicians in Parliament. Who knows, if swapo looses an outright majority, or even if their majority comes under pressure, they may also get rid of the MP's that are a disgrace, and replace them with "more presentable" (intelllectually speaking) representatives.

Either way, strong opposition politics is what we need. (If nothing else, it may cause swapo to shape up a bit).
Only with a STRONG and well represented opposition, can we force government to become accountable. At this stage we lack this luxury. Swapo merely imposes it's will, to hell with the rest. A good example of this is the (illegal) third term as president enjoyed by sam nujoma, not to mention his largely unpopular (among opposition supporters) title as "father of the nation"

Swapo is well aware of the "danger" of a strong opposition, hence their iron fist reaction to the RDP. I will repeat myself: If swapo is left unconcerned by the RDP, then why react so powerfully? Just look at the number of people who read this post in a short time. A good indication that "somebody" is worried, and I dont think it is the opposition supporters!!
Re: swapo is scared of RDP
mandume

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Friday, 16. May 2008 at 13:31
Elaiti, wrote: “What does the party constitution say? Sorry there is NO party constitution.”


Elaiti, and the SWAPO crew, I have one question for you

How long did it take SWAPO Party to draft their party constitution?

Please answer my question!!!!!!

“Constitutions are guides implemented to safe guide the party’s conducts and therefore requires proper research and accuracy”

We do not need to be amending our party’s constitution, every now and then.


“It’s better to do it the right way one time then doing it the wrong way many times”

So, stop demanding RDP’s constitution……….. time will come and you will get it…..right at your door steps




RDP!!!!!!! Keep the Rally Going......and Going we are behind you.................................we won't budge!!!
Re: swapo is scared of RDP
nambili

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Friday, 16. May 2008 at 17:45
Good to hear from you Elaiti,

I hope you are old enough to have been aware of what was happening when CoD was formed. From my perspective, CoD was formed out of the blue. RDP was always going to happen the way things went on in SWAPO for the better part of 3-4 years. Also with RDP, SWAPO saw a much larger number of leaders with a greater leverage of influence compared to the formation of CoD in 1999. Another factor is that as the people taste the fruits of independence, they are likely to demand more than just a tap of water, a clinic and so forth.

Educated young people are more likely to demand better performance from the government of today. Educated people are more likely NOT to "belong" to a political party because most educated people like to think independently and belonging to a party does not encourage independent thinking. Therefore there are a lot of educated people in RDP but it is not for [all] educated people only!


Similarly:
there are a lot of Kwanyamas in RDP but it is not for [all] Kwanyamas only!

SWAPO will always have more supporters, percentage-wise, in the rural areas in the former Ovamboland than in the urban areas. You can beg to differ, but previous national election results will prove that as a matter of fact.

Facebook members, flags on houses and other party colours might say a lot about SWAPO's strong support but their absence in RDP's favour is not a true show of their weakness. Do you have a job Elaiti? Do you want to keep your job? Do you want to get a better job? Then by all means, show your SWAPO colours. However, most RDP supporters would rather not show their colours. Not because it is shameful but because of the fear of intimidation, victimisation and so forth......

How many CoD supporters did you personally meet in your life? How many are your friends or family? Even in 1999? The answer for me is few. How many RDP supporters do you know? How many are your friends or family? My brother, RDP/SWAPO split has torn families into factions. The civilised ones have not allowed that to affect their personal lives. But the point is RDP has torn into SWAPO's support base.

I don't know whether SWAPO is scared or not. But RDP is not another CoD (at least not at this stage). And SWAPO must be prepared for whatever happens. If you are not prepared, you will react in a rabid manner like some reacted (and still are reacting) to the formation of RDP.

Re: swapo is scared of RDP
Nkosana

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Saturday, 17. May 2008 at 11:19
I love the way you think, it is about time SWAPO leaves office. How many schools has SWAPO built in the recent years? How many clinics? How many Hospitals? How many jobs have been created? Let me and you join hands and start our own political party....VIVA CHANGES....Let name our party, Rally for Change and Progress. Think about it.
Re: swapo is scared of RDP
DIXILAZO

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Saturday, 17. May 2008 at 13:40
swapo has no reason to be scared of rdp! rdp SUCKS n we all knw tht
Re: swapo is scared of RDP
cris

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Saturday, 17. May 2008 at 17:51
for a external observer
Who is RDP?
Wich are the political principles?
In global politics, are next to nothing if with no principles.
So
Why Swapo can be scared of nothing or next to nothing ???????
VIVA SWAPO VIVA NAMIBIA
cris
Re: swapo is scared of RDP
tell it like that

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Saturday, 17. May 2008 at 19:37
Yes Brother - Inlaw , Cris

It is a long time indeed it is not easy to retire for ever from this forum.
Cris you are lucky that you are in Europe today where you can get anything easly.

We in RDP believe in the following which can move our Country forward, i wili give you some which realy made people move forward and seriously this issues are or will affect us if not well adress by those who are willing to bring change and move our we liberated song for almost 18 years.

i want you to look at this if RDP is nothing this is our hope and believe that if we win we can do the following mistakes which swapo could not deliver in 18 years.

Read this Cris.....

The RDP has been born and we are here to launch its presence in our society.
The RDP has been born in response to our people's deep longing for a vision, political direction and the rekindling of their hopes and aspirations for a better and prosperous future.
We are back with a zeal and determination to make a difference and re-ignite the spirit of confidence and hope that prevailed at independence.

During the first decade of our independence Namibia was regarded as a shining example of a progressive and dynamic small nation that appeared to be doing everything right. Many countries felt inspired to establish embassies and high commissions in our capital. But as we entered the second decade of our independence, many of them began to have second thoughts and some of them started closing their embassies, including some of those countries who had been supportive of the liberation struggle, such as Sweden, Holland, Norway, Canada.

As we all know, the attainment of independence gave the Namibian people a deep sense of hope. They looked towards a process of democratization that was unstoppable.

However, somewhere in the process, the nation saw a drift from a thoroughgoing transformation from the legacy of apartheid to the emergence of yet another system of regression that was the development of a personality cult and autocratic rule.

The initial enthusiasm with which the nation was fired to go forward, began to decline. The politics of fear set in. People were forced into a state of denial that this was going on.

The politics of fear went hand in hand with the politics of exclusion, such that many people who were ready to make a contribution found themselves ostracized, witch-hunted, sidelined and indeed, silenced. Autocracy continued unabated and reached new heights. This has been the experience of this nation over the past three years.

I know that many of you have felt the frustration but were not able to speak out. Now the time has come!!

The founders of the RDP were aware of this sad development and they decided to rise to the historical occasion to establish a political organization with the capacity to stem this growing tide of autocracy.

The RDP is committed to help bring about genuine democratic governance in this country and to entrench its influence in our society.

The RDP, which we are here to launch, pledges to be a party of new character. It is a party that is driven by the burning desire to make a difference.

And we will make a difference!

We have had enough of big promises and no action. The time has now come for a new approach to politics, one that is based on concrete delivery!

The RDP is geared to address poverty

The RDP is geared to address unemployment.

The RDP is geared to address the sorry state of education The RDP is geared to address the declining state of health care.

The RDP is geared to address crime and violence, especially violence against women and children.

The RDP is geared to eradicate corruption.

The RDP is geared to drive the economy forward.

The RDP is geared to improving the living standards of the Namibian people.

The RDP is all- inclusive, where everyone has a role to play. We have already begun in earnest to be inclusive.

The RDP firmly believes that the supreme power of this country is vested in the people.

That is what democracy is all about.

We know you want water.

We know you want increased pensions for the elderly

We know you want an end to the high failure rate in education

We know you want kindergartens for your children

Together we will address these issues. You must remember that the distinctive character of the RDP is action and timely implementation of policy decisions and programmes.

This is the primary reason for our being in politics.

The RDP is NOT, as some people want you to believe, a party of SWAPO dissidents!

It is an inclusive party in embracing Namibians of different political backgrounds and persuasions.

People who could no longer fit into rigid and stagnant party political structures are finding a new political home in the RDP. Namibians who have never voted because they could not vote for any of the existing political parties are being welcomed to the RDP.

This is what makes it a true rallying point for social progress.

The RDP values peace and national unity. It pledges to foster a culture of tolerance. And the leadership of the party strongly urges its members, supporters and sympathizers not to ever be involved in violence and provocation. Political disagreements must be addressed in the arena of ideas.

Resorting to violence is normally done by those who are unable to put forth ideas, defend those ideas in a peaceful and non-threatening manner and thus win the hearts and minds of the people.

The RDP will soon put in motion a process of political education to provide guidelines to its followers on our political activity.

The RDP believes that only a party that is capable of uniting itself, and staying united, will be able to unite the Namibian nation.

Namibia used to be listed among the top four most competitive economies in Africa. This is no longer the case. Namibia is now not only slipping down the competitive ranking but is also occupying a higher position on the ranks of corrupt nations.

This is a stigma that is not easily washed off.

Factors such as declining health care and education pull us down. A healthy, well-educated population is more creative, more employable and more self-sufficient. Namibia's real wealth lies in its people. But they are being ignored.

The time is right to harness this human capital to stimulate productivity, growth of our economy and the entrenchment of good governance.

This is the agenda of the party we are here to launch. Action is the criteria by which the RDP would like to be judged.

Action must speak louder than words.

Together, we will deliver!!! .

YES I KNOW MANY DON, T READ WHAT WE PREACH BUT FOLLOW US CAREFULLY AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND MANY THINGS WHICH RDP IS READY TO CHANGE.

Since RDP was Laucnhed the above concern are true and swapo shivered in some like
opening up water , Pension increased from 350 to 450 but RDP can do more.
the ignored issues of EX plan Combantant is finaly finish they wil bwe paid 2,500 monthly.

i think for a normal person to think maybe RDP is nothing we are here to push your mighty swapo to deliver not so we are going to take over and deliver,

for now i am happy because Swapo is going to change manything Because of RDP . is that not sacred why now, swapo is cared weather you believe me or not .
i will give you one Example how swapo dealt with the Caprivi regional councellors case.
this people should thank RDP because what i know if RDP was not form. swapo could fire all.
but knowing that if they fire them than their voice in Caprivi is little so what they did is to dance to the councellors Tune . so i know you can also tell but i don,t blame you do you realy care about namibia or just want to pleaze others , RDP is not hear to pleaze who ever but RDP is Here to adress the deterioreting status cho of our Country for a proud t namibian not to see that something is wrong is not difficult. but for those who are enjoying in swapo today is mana. them are eating well
what about those namibians who where promised, are they going to taste our namibian wealth this is all namibians property but for now it is only eaten by those who shout louder and pleaze their masters on a daily base or be royal which we don,t want the passport to namibian life is not only when you vote for swapo but please give everybody life no matter where they belong no wonder they have started denying our supporters water and boycot their business thats not what we want in Namibia no..........

i am so happy that even if we don,t win at least swapo is no more ignoring people or disrespecting people like the way they use to treat their supporters example Ex fighters and those whom they thought are Enemies at least I will give credit to RDP eventhough the blinds can not see.

quote , read my lips there is no money thats how Tjirange said when RDP was not Form.
why now and where did the money come from. lets be real they are afraid.


Love and Peace





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Re: swapo is scared of RDP
Mysterio

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Saturday, 17. May 2008 at 22:08
Telling like it is, I told you the previous time that you might be the top official in the RDP party but you have refused and ignored. This time your post has also awaken something in me and is nothing else other than heading forward that ---there is 80% for ourself to be Hidipo or Nyamu or other top officials!!

I believe you are about to reveal your inner cryings and hunger for winning the 2009 elections. It is fine that RDP has geared more than 10 gears more aimed at showing how responsible the party might be if it is to win the elections ----joke of the century--

I am now in doubt as to whether the party is for peope with vision or for people that are blind and will be bribed easily. The way I understand the gears that you have just mentioned, I can already see that your party has already failed before putting any of them into practice.

By comparing what SWAPO has provided as the result of the pressure by the RDP party, thats just a tip of the iceberg meaning that, they just never had a strong opposition party ----oppositon party---- now that they are having, all things will be done in the blink of the eye and remember that doing so is also increasing their woe and there is no way the RDP can overtake.

According to my own understandings as a Namibian citizen using both the Top - Down and Bottom - Up ways of thinking, I understand that the RDP and CoD political parties are all sons and daughters of SWAPO since their leaders has served in SWAPO for so many years. It is a shame to me now to hear them preaching that SWAPO has lost its vision and about to collapse, as well as the saying that it is a corrupt party. Then, if it is a corrupt party, how have they been expelling it --corruption-- from themselves if its what they have been breathing in and out? Why didn't they mention that long time while they were still MPs and Ministers that SWAPO is very corrupt? Is that not just a stereotype now coz the matter around now is the fight for the supporters? If the RDP and CoD leaders has been operating under the corrupt party then they are also having that genus and likely to spread it coz they are now from the same Genius but different Species.

Myself as Namibian citizen with vision to myself and understand how this things are likely to cause confusions and instability of peace in the country, I have figured out already how RDP is just another CoD to me coz of its very early corrupt practices of smuggling people in the electoral candidates list, as well as the disturbance they are more likely to cause from the results of the elections as they have already showed how unhappy they are with the Eenhana elections.

According to the mini conclusion that I will give here to all those that are claiming to be having the vision is that, with SWAPO in the office, Namibia will always be a respected country. If war or certain peace turmoils are to happen in Namibia in the coming years, RDP is the one that will stir it coz of their instability and always claiming that there is corruptin being practised towards them ----feeling segragated---

RDP is just the driver for SWAPO and there is no way it can overtake it!!

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cris

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Sunday, 18. May 2008 at 14:54
Dear Comrade Tel it like that

First my apologises to all.
I found the web page of RDP.
I readt it.
So , RDP got a programme.
I read it , and i could not find news, a economic project,etc.
Nothing is new. It's like a team that want to win only because
think ,that is better than others.
But have nothing to prove.
NEW IDEIAS , NEW PROJECTS, NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
PROJECT, etc etc and now a NEW ENERGY POLITICAL PROGRAMME,
those are the real issues for 2008/09 in front.
I can understand ( as I'm outside) that RDP is a split org from SWAPO.
Am I right?
If so , the problem here is " I'm better than you , I don't like your face".
But , this is not enough,.
You can say that SWAPO at present have no solutions for global
economic problems. I agree. And I say , that nobody, no one org.in the
world got solutions. So Swapo, is not different from others org. or political
parties.
I read days ago that political oponents was blaming Namibia Governement
and SWAPO for the fuel prices increase ( 4 times this year). What about
to say about the fuel price increases this year in mostly of thre european
countries ( 15 times only this year).
I agree that there are social problems ( and big ones ) in Namibia.
I agree that coud be done more ( yes could be), but SWAPO decided for
the soft solution of a very mix economy, not making the breakway with
the " economic appartheid ", trying to keep every one happy. Sometimes
doesn't work. I could try for a socialist economy, and if you ask me for a
economic model , I can say CUBA SOCIALIST REVOLUTION.
But, as I said , I can't see reason for a RDP outside of SWAPO. Or in
other words : I SEE SWAPO AS A UMBRELA FOR ALL PATRIOTIC
NAMIBIANS ( from the left to the centre right) , where RDP could be
inside.
Do you understand my point of view.
If so :
WHY CAN SWAPO BE SCARED OF RDP ????? No way.

CRIS
Re: swapo is scared of RDP
Elaiti

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Thursday, 22. May 2008 at 10:55
Nambili

I said I want to know what that Vote HH on rdp's website mean?

I know quiet a few rdp supporters. Do you know what they have in common? Their hate for Nujoma. These are my observations. If I'm wrong tell me what brings YOU and yaNangolo to the same rdp table?

I gave you my facts on why I think rdp has very few supporters. You either objectively analyse and accept them or get shocked by SWAPO's overwhelming majority in 2009.



SWAPO is the PEOPLE which is why we have put our FLAGS on our cars, trees, kambashus etc
Nyamu we u nyemenamo paife oto u toolamo nee!!!!
Re: swapo is scared of RDP
swapo

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Thursday, 22. May 2008 at 11:48

Tell It Like it is I feeel Sorry for you. Thats all I can say!
Re: swapo is scared of RDP
swapo

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Thursday, 22. May 2008 at 12:18
No Mr /Miss DIRECTOR

Elaiti is actually thinking more like a person compared to you, it is clear you have lost your sense of reasoning and understanding and you have obviously been deeply brainwashed by that so called project. HH failed in his projects to uplift this country, ODC, DBC and the controversial RAMATEX, How the can the RDP succeed. That man only knows projects in his mouth and bank account. You keeping hungrily Rallying behind that project while in fact that HH doesn't even have your interest at heart, and he is living large fromwhat he ripped from the failed project and he will rip only for himself for the RDP porject. Ekandjo was right HH must be given ! sit for himself in parliament so we can hear the other rubbish he has to contribute. If Elait is working for the GRN why should he be scared, he is proud of his GRN and will defend it at all cost, (We are patriotic like that) the likes of you will keep on running forever. I can't wait for RDP to loose its vision to see wher many of you will run to. Those who are scared are the like s of hH toys such the Mocks SHivute ETC who still want to eat out of the GRN as they themselves don't clearly see the vision that RAdOPA professes, EVEN HH had lost faith in the so called project, but Nyamu who was left alone in a open field could not allow to just let it go. Now they have to try their best to keep up appearance. NYAMU is so foolish, Imagine he even says people should not put flags up as he has never seen it before the world over.
As young as I am I remember coming to Namibia in 1990 and from there and since then, there were swapo flags erected on various households and people continued doing every election year, where was Nyamu then was he not in swapo ? HOW COME HE NEVER OBJECTED, EVEN HIS FAMILY AND RELATIVES HOUSES HAD SWAPO FLAGS ON THE HOUSES. AND SOME STILL DO AS NOT EVEN HIS VILLAGE WANT TO FOLLOW HIS SO CALLED NEW FOUND VISION . SO BEOFRE YOU TELL SOMEONE TO THINK LIKE HUMAN BEINGS YOU SHOULD MAYBE START WITH YOURSELF AND THEN YOU GO TO HH AND THEN NYAMU, NAMBINGA, NEHOVA he is the funniest of all jokes he forget that he was nominated and put in to the ongwediva councillor position by swapo and now he calling for uutoni's tail, they forget so quickly, wether utoni was not elected or was put in place by swapo it does not matter, the guy is doing well for ongwediva and we are proud. unlike himself who went to squander project money on his so called bashes.
Re: swapo is scared of RDP
tell it like that

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Friday, 23. May 2008 at 02:02
swapo feel sorry for yourself.
mind you nobody called the said people to join swapo it was their own conviction do not worry.
we join swapo by our own and we left it by our own what ever we deceide is up to us


why pain if you know you have supporters than go ahead and enjoy it.
nobody owns people what ever evrybody deceides is up to him ok because this are guys who know swapo better than you do. go ahead and enjoy the kapia way.
where is he today you must feel pitty for kapia not me look at his pixture of recent than feel pity for him not me i don,t sack for favours.

Love and Peace



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Re: swapo is scared of RDP
G4u

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Friday, 23. May 2008 at 10:49
tell it like it,
do you want to pose a picture of an oportunist? Does rdp became an oportunist party. taking up every thing which happened her as their cause and succes? I realy did not believe you can dream this far. Is easy to dream but it is not easy to put thing in reality. Increaments and water have been here since independence and if you want to use what SWAPO is providing for her people as yours, go ahead, please yourself, but be warned, NAMIBIANS ARE NOT FOR CHEAT/PROPAGADA. They know who to follow depend on what they believe in. and that is SWAPO for the PEOPLE and the PEOPLE for SWAPO.
rdp is not going to change anything, you guys are just going to try to put your power hungry leader to power which you will not do succesfuly. come 2009 humiliation will be more than Eenhana. Please don't say I did not warn you.

by the way, don't hinde behing ammending, on the 21st century, thing wont remain the same, constitutions have to be ammemded now and then to incorporate the changing world. Anyway, this is what the Party of The People SWAPO believes in.

You must rest in Peace but not in Pits. I rest my case.

Peace and Stability as alway
Re: swapo is scared of RDP
DIRECTOR

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Friday, 23. May 2008 at 16:45
thanks to all comrades, the post i posted i giving us true colour of our faces.

1.let s respects the right of joining political parties of our choices.

2. Stop calling us to come back at shawapo, forget that.

3. Please tell your leaders to go and pay their cloths and municpal accounts as soon as posible before, their go on auction, next week. Shame on shawapo leaders, what about poors water, we had been paying water as from ind. Of our country, but the day RDP formed, they stop charge us, and closed taps gad reopened again,just like that,

Why?because SHAWAPO is scared of RDP, truth hurt,i will never ask you to join my Rdp.

The motion had tabled, lets debate...

Director is RDP MEMBER.
Re: swapo is scared of RDP
Boerseun

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Saturday, 24. May 2008 at 01:14
I dont know what this fuss is between RDP and swapo. The way I see it, RDP ( and once upon a time the CoD) as breakaway factions of swapo IS STILL SWAPO at heart. The only difference between a RDP/CoD supporter/politician from a swapo supporter/politician seems to be their higher level of intellectual development, and desire for a better living for ALL (as opposed to swapo who still cling to their original OPO ideals)

Maybe swapo hates the RDP because of the "brain drain" experienced everytime a intellectual leaves the party. (us white people say the RDP is the educated man's swapo) Or maybe they hate the RDP because they find it more difficult to convince their supporters of a "unified" swapo.

Maybe the RDP hates swapo because they are so similar (with regards to their political roots) that they themselves may become confused which is which. Or maybe they over-emphasise their RDP support because they are ashamed of their swapo past. (You could call the RDP "rehabilitated" swapo supporters, since they no longer are addicted to the dangerous swapo drug!!)

Whichever way, disunity in swapo is to the benefit of Namibia. I dont care who or what causes it, as long as swapo continues on their current political decline. A small step, but swapo lost the Henties election (only 3 of the 7 seats) At least that tiny corner of Namibia can now claim to have a FUNCTIONING democracy.

Swapo's waning support will still see them win the '09 elections, but thereafter....

I support ALL opposition parties in their effort to rid us of the misfunctioning swapo government!!
Re: swapo is scared of RDP
tell it like that

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Saturday, 24. May 2008 at 06:30
G4u
unfortunatly you are talking to somo one who knows how swapo came and took over from 1990
up to now . i can also tell you that we know what went wrong and right since we took over from the boers and we know what excuses did swapo give up to now enemy all over and what did swapo change so much other than taking over from boers and running the same administration of boers

why i say so is first they want to develop owamboland and than left over to other region this is what boers have been doing do not cheat me you can cheat those who are saving swapo knowing they are not educated and the only way to stay is pleazing swapo because no where to go.
i don,t owe swapo anything but swapo owes me my vote which put them to power.

some of you think that swapo is untouchable you are cheating yourself our voices will be heard by those Namibians wo can read well and analise namibia future not those who don,t know anything.

Everybody knows how many in swapo where appointed you must sack up and be a good yes boss puppet no complaints or no talking you are fired so we need leaders not pupets who think a human being can just toast you around with his autocracy.

yes some of you think when we are silence we don,t know what your swapo was up too.
they mostly favour those they know and owadja peni. people lets not think others are stupid.

today guys who worked hard for swapo like shixwameni don,t you ask yourself why did he leave swapo first and for your own info those days swapo never had any majority in kavango this guy worked hard to mobilise students and boycots where on but what do you say about him.

had we known what we know today of many in swapo i don,t think we could even vote for you guys. hipocracy is the orde of the day in swapo .

look how many officials owes water and electricity it is very unfair the guys with fat cheques are favoured but those who can struggles,light and water are cut off tell me if it is fair.

people like them are not even trusted with anything because they don,t care thiswhy they have big huge bills how do you expect the munipality to operate well if them swapo Cadres can,t pay up bills in time please cheat the ignorant ones not us who broke away from swapo we are not few but many.

so we expect our voice to be heard too do not ignore or undermine our intelegency.

we must not thing like we come in namibia and found it bush but we took over from boers and this guys diid a lot than what we have done in 18 years. we must not take credit of their job well done
today we a proudly talking of a a clean city as if we did it by ourself , so go ahead and cheat babies not me i know how we got independent and how things are moving currently from better to worse. so that show lack of leadership in many sector today read what kandetu indicated incomptent people are the majority in our goverment because their passport to life is swapo voters. you don,t vote for swapo no job just like what their busy doing to kandetu today but kandetui can always find a job because he is educated and don,t owe swapo anything he can work for privte sector if swapo fires him.
thiswhy today he can stand tall and talk.



Love and peace





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